Cabbies and Teenage Shoplifters - Fishing
By Rob-roy (3 Nov 2007)
Friends,
Last night (or earlier this evening) a number of us hit the
college streets in our town and specifically to spend time at the
As we were walking toward the college streets after parking, a
lady was behind us and we let her pass us. As she did she noticed the
pizza and waters and said they smelled good and she new of about 50 people who
would really like to eat them. I asked her if she meant the
We arrived at the
Cat was sitting with some other women who had brought pet rats in
a small cage. They were cute. Amy likes rats and Steven and I went
over and got to pet them before we left her, Kelly and Mitch behind in order to
hit the main street with water bottles. On the streets Steven, Chuck and
I ran into Lacy. I see him almost everytime we are out. He looked
good for being homeless and was happy to get a bottle of water. As we
moved down the street as usual there were cabbies hanging around looking for
customers. We offered waters and they took them quickly. As I was
about to move on God stopped me and I asked their names. One was named
"Nor". He told me they are from
I asked if they knew what Sura 19:19 said. They did not
know off the top of their head. I explained it
is where the angel tells Mary that she will have a faultless (pure and without
sin) son which is Jesus. That Jesus is without sin. That in the Sura's (such as Sura 10) it shows where Mohammed sinned
and needed to repent for forgiveness. That Jesus was the greater
prophet and in Sura 5 Mohammed is directed to the people of the book
(Christians who follow the bible) for help and the scriptures that came before
which refers to the Torah (first 5 books of the bible) and the Gospels (the New
Testament writings about Jesus).
Nor and the other 3 cabbies admitted they would go to Hell if
they died now. The reason being they had not "yet" done enough
to make up for the sin they had committed. One man said that he is
worried about dying too soon as he might not have enough time to pay his sin
off with good deeds. In the Koran this is described as the scales being
heavy. The good and bad is weighed and if the
scales are not heavy with good then hell is the judgment. Since the Koran
upholds the Torah it was good to ask them about the prophet Moses and the Ten
Commandments. In going through the commandments they admitted they had
sinned and have much to pay for.
Nor acted like he could pay for his own sin. The man in the white shirt (I forget his name) was
becoming very open. Especially after the following scenario I asked them
to consider. Based on their own admission of looking at just a few of the
commandments given to the prophet Moses which the Koran supports they were in
big trouble but yet hoping their own good deeds would overcome the bad they had
already committed. I asked them to picture a criminal who was guilty of
multiple violations of the law standing in front of a judge. The criminal
is guilty but pleads with the judge that despite the serious violations they
have done they also have done other good things. They help old people
cross the street. They give to charities. They volunteer their time
to noble causes. Pay their taxes and don't kick the dog. Will the
judge dismiss the violations of the law because of the good deeds? They
told me no. And they were correct. I told them a good judge would
acknowledge those good deeds but would correctly explain they are not the
reason the criminal is before him. He is before the judge because of the
laws that have been broken and the law requires that justice be satisfied and
good deeds will not suffice.
So I asked Nor when he is before God
and he has not done enough to satisfy the demands of justice for his sin is that
something he thinks about and does it concern him. He said it did concern
him but that he was continuing to try to make up for his sin. I explained
that the prophet Jesus (Esa) was perfect (Sura 19:19). Mohammed was
not (Sura 10). Only God is perfect and therefore Jesus
is God and is the only one who can, if he is willing, to stand in your place to
pay for your sin. And He is willing. Willing to lay His life
down on the cross and pick it back up again.
Nor wanted to talk about the trinity and move from talking
about how things would play out for him on judgment day.
I explained that there are answers to those questions and that Jesus
is God. And that the most important questions for him and the other
cabbies talking with me was where were they putting
there trust. Would they insist on trusting in there own works to pay off
their sin? Or would they put their trust in the provision that God made
through Jesus dying on the cross and rising again to save them. Would
they trust in the perfect goodness of Jesus as God to pay for their sin and
take their punishment?
Nor insisted on paying his own
way. The man in the white shirt was becoming more open and thirsty for
what was being said about Jesus. He clearly was not insisting he pay his
own way and seemed touched by Jesus being God and was understanding the message
of the cross and grace. At the very least he had a major seed
planted. I turned to Nor and let him know we
needed to move on but before we did I warned him about his pride. That if
he is determined to pay his own way and work away his sin then God
will take him up on it and he will receive justice. And that justice is
the wrath of God. There will be Hell to pay. But if he would humble
himself and put his trust in the only provision that God has made
which is Jesus he would be saved. The choice was trust in Nor or trust in the Savior Jesus Christ.
Nor and I smiled. We shook hands with all the cabbies and
told them we hoped to see them on another night to talk more. If I see
them again I am open to their questions about the trinity but at that point
it was more of a diversion on Nor's part to deflect from the weight of
where he would stand in light of God's judgment and I did not want to move
from the most important thing of all, which is the gospel.
Moving on Steven and I passed a store and beep went off.
Steven saw a girl steal a scarf and hide it and walk out of the store in front
of us. She went down the side street with her friend and then a store
employee went out of the store looking around for who
may have stole something. He tracked the girls (they looked
very young) down the street. While he was following one of the
girls the other tossed the scarf away. I told Steven to hang on
because we might be able to talk to the girls. The employee stopped
walking after the girls and the girls stopped at the next corner. As we
approached the girls we offered water and the dark haired girl said no.
The blonde said yes (she had stolen the scarf).
I told the girls we were Christians and we saw
what happened. That they set off the beep and I asked if they stole
something. The dark haired girl said she had not. The blonde
said she works at another store and the beep goes off all the time and it does
not mean something was stolen. Steven saw the whole thing... she was
lying. She went on to say that she is a Christian but that she does not
go to church and she does not believe there is an afterlife. We die and
that is that.
The dark haired girl was more open. She said she had been
a Christian but in the past few years has become agnostic. She said
scientific proof has moved her to that position. And the bible being
written by men has been changed and corrupted through the years. She said
she is not sure what happens when we die. It may be nothing.
We just are no longer. Or Heaven or hell if there is a God. I asked
her if men had written the science books?
She said yes. I asked if the science books had changed through out
the years. She said yes. My point being that is why she claimed not
to trust the bible but when it comes to the science books no
problem. Then the big question. I asked
her about the proof. The scientific proof that was so amazing it moved
her to being agnostic. I asked for the her
favorite and most compelling proof that really convinced her to be
agnostic. The short story is she admitted there was no proof she could
offer. She just believed. No proof. No science. No
nothing. She said she understood my point. Which was while she was
saying her belief was based on proof and science in reality her beliefs were
based on "nothing". She just believed in what she believed
without any basis for it.
I asked her about her conscience. Why it only speaks
to right and wrong? And then took her through the commandments.
She admitted she did not like being lied to. But
had lied to others. She did not like people taking her
things. Though she had stolen from others.
After going through a few more of the commands I asked if she would be innocent
or guilty before God? She said guilty. I
asked what God should do if God exists and is good?
Should God send guilty people to Heaven or Hell.
She paused and softly said "Hell". When I
asked if that concerned her she said "yes".
She said she had gone to church awhile back. So I asked
what did she learn in church about what God did so she
did not have to go to hell. She said Jesus on the cross. And we had
a good conversation about God's love and mercy. The
good news. And that she has a choice. She can repent and
trust in Christ who is so kind to save her or live her life the way
she has been doing her own thing and rebelling against God. I
asked her if she deep inside longed for death to be the end or for there to be
more after we died. She said for there to be more. I told her that
was a bible verse. Ecclesiastes 3:11 says that God has put eternity in
your heart. And so he has by your own admission.
We asked her to think about these things tonight and she took a
gospel of John booklet and a Save Yourself Some Pain literature to read.
The whole time the blonde girl (who did the stealing) was
squirming like you would not believe. In fact when taking the dark haired
girl through the commandments the blonde girl would find fault with her
friend. If she wavered on admitting to breaking a command the blonde
girl would jump in give examples of how she had done so. As she listened though she got quiet. I can imagine
stealing something and then having Christians talk with you about God's justice
and judgment and then his mercy. I am sure that timing could not be lost
on these girls. I am glad we could share the gospel with them.
As we headed back to the
We went and got the second batch of Pizza and water and brought
them back to the drum circle. When we got their Kelly, Amy and Mitch
were in conversations. Steven was able to talk briefly with a young
man over near the hackey sack area. Then he talked with "Nice
Guy" (a street name) for a long time. I was able to
just listen in. They had a great conversation. Steven told me
that Nice Guy has a meeting planned with our friend Linda next weekend.
Steven knows Linda through me and told Nice Guy to be sure to
make that meeting.
I had a chance to talk with Physco (street name) for a little
bit. As we were talking loud shots sounded from the distance.
Physco told us that it probably was not gunfire (sounded like it) but was
police using a bean bag gun. He said that it is a gun that has a bean bag in it that when fired moves as fast as a bullet and causes
a lot of pain and a huge welt and bruise. We heard a few of those
shots. And then we heard a gunshot. I looked at Physco and he
even said "what was that, now that was a gun shot". Due to the
alley way area we were in it is hard to tell where sounds
come from. That was a little scary. Then I say Joe again by
himself in a dark area next to the drum circle. He had set up anew his
candles and alter. Very creepy! I prayed for
Joe on the spot as I looked at him taking great care to establish whatever
sacrament he was preparing.
Next I was able to talk with Sean (aka Turtle). This guy
brought a harmonica and he can play it. I MEAN HE CAN PLAY IT!
WOW! He was not good but he was great. Better than great
really. I asked him about his beliefs and he said he was Christian
and that Jesus is the only way. He seemed solid as I got to know him and
his background. I asked if we could pray for him and he said
yes. We gathered around him and prayed and he prayed too. It
was great. When we were done he played the harmonica again. He
played and played and played. Amazing music came out of that thing.
The bongo drummer came over to us to join in with the beats to go along with
Sean's playing. When they finished I asked the drummer about his
story. His name is Lyle and has been coming up to drum for quite
awhile. It was clear he was not homeless but enjoyed the drumming and the
drum circle. I mentioned I used to drum some 20 years ago in high school
and he move his drum over to let me play a
little. Despite my rust I did ok and he told he brings a second drum with
him and that I need to play with them. I will let you know if I go
on tour!!!
At that point it was nearing 11 PM and we wrapped up the night
in prayer and in sharing stories of the conversations we all had. It was
awesome to share the gospel and bring food and water to those who were hungry
and thirsty. Please pray for all those mentioned and not mentioned in this
story. That the lost would be found. Thank
you for your prayers.
In Jesus name,
Rob-roy
© Rob-roy 2007